(25:00) Ole – (looking at a photo) There are the Banff bunch. That’s Jim Deegan, yep. Glen Brooks, Beef Woodworth, Shadow Fagan, Frank Lightbou, Walter Perren, Ross Baker, he was from Yoho. There’s Cypes and I forgot his name…Bob Hand. This one armed guy, he was Chief Warden…Joe Allen. He climbed poles and everything. Neil Woledge and that’s a little English kid we picked on for the heck of it. Bert Pittaway, (Gerry) Lyster, Malcom Macnab. There’s old Harry Harrison from PA (Prince Albert National Park).
(26:51) Alice – When we first got married…Ole was attending this six week course at the Art School. One of the days they went up to Sunshine. Sunshine wasn’t open yet, but they went up. Harry Harrison and Roberts from Elk Island. These two wardens and of course me and they had a bunch of, an assortment of old ski boots. I couldn’t ski either, so we put these on and the three of us we worked so hard to get up this little hill! We just turned around and started down and of course we all piled in the snow and old Harry Harrison said, “God, I was buried so deep, I didn’t know which way to dig!” He came out of there and he had snow in behind his glasses. It was so funny! I’ll never forget Harry.
(30:05) Ole – (looking at a photo) There’s an oldie (dated 1933). Here’s Beef Woodworth when he was a young lad. That’s Walter Peyto. Bill Peyto’s brother.
(30:38) Alice – (looking at the photo) This is Jack Naylor. His son was the best man at our wedding.
(30:49) Ole – Here’s the guy who built the Eygpt Lake cabin. Janie Gilmar’s grandfather…Harold Fuller. Jack Naylor built the cabin at Healy Creek. He (Jack) built the one in the Spray too, but it got covered with gravel during a freak flood.
(32:34) Ole – (After 15 years at Healy Creek) I went to Jasper as Assistant Chief in 1966. Karen and Robert were in school. Larry was only three years old when we went there. (We were there for) three years. Then we went to Revelstoke. I was forced to go to Revelstoke pretty well. I had already accepted Yoho. We were worried about schooling and what not but we didn’t say anything you know. The kids in Yoho got their education. But they put Andy Anderson in place of me in Yoho. They couldn’t get anyone to go to Glacier. Hollingsworth quit because he had kids. He didn’t want to go up to Yoho, he’d rather stay in Kootenay so he had to quit. Andy was Chief Warden the same time I went to Glacier.
(34:28) Alice – I thought Andy came later…Hal Shepard was there because we had come down from Jasper that one time. You had to go down there for a meeting and I came along and visited Irene Brooke.
(34:43) Ole- Just a minute now. Hal Shepard was before Andy. Then he went to Glacier and then he put on the high boots and the breachers – he got from the RCMP.
(35:16) Ole – For two years (Ole was in Revelstoke as the Chief Warden). They forced me there. They said, “You go or we will take your resignation.” Yah…So I asked. I said, “What about Andy Anderson, why can’t I go to Yoho?” They said, “You get along with people.” So (after two years) I said, “Get me out of here. I’ll take a demotion.” So I did. I went back to my old job in Jasper and there were three guys working it. Then there were four of us doing the same job that I was doing.
(36:16) Alice – But he found out he had made a mistake.
(36:20) Ole – Yah, I made a mistake. I shouldn’t have gone back.
(36:24) Alice – Because you can’t go back, you got to go ahead.
(36:37) Ole – But they had split the park up by then into four pieces. I got the north corner of the park. I figured the best part of it, GT4. The Snake Indian area and the Smokey. When I hit Jasper I was automatically made Acting Chief Warden because the Chief Warden went on holidays.
(37:37) Ole – In 1974 we went to Pacific (Rim National Park). We were out there for three years. I was Chief Warden there, yeah, I got that. Then I transferred from there to Kootenay when Neil Woledge left.
(37:55) Alice – Because that was going to be our last move. We didn’t want to retire on the island because our families were all here.
(38:08) Ole – Arthritis was setting in. When your new truck rusts in the garage, the bed springs were rusty and our steel tableware…our knife handles were rusty and they had never been outside!
(38:32) Alice – But it was great to stay there, because you got to live in a place to really know it. And it (Ucluelet) was so different and it was interesting. We just had Larry there. Karen and Robert had graduated and they were on their own. Actually it was a good move to come out there. They had things for kids that age (to do). He was just coming up to Grade Nine, I think he passed into Grade Nine there just before we left. There was little league baseball, there was street hockey (in Ucluelet)…but once they reached that 14/15 year old, there was nothing. And that was bad! So that was good actually that we could move at that time.
(39:34) Ole – We went from there to Kootenay and we retired there in 1980.
(39:49) Alice- We bought our house (in Salmon Arm) before we moved. We bought it May and took over in August. So Larry took his Grade 12 here in Salmon Arm.
