(0:53:05) Oh yeah, all of them (Joe competed in all of the Warden gymkhanas). We started at the (Ya-Ha Tinda) ranch. We rode three year olds and then over three year olds. So you could ride two different horses. Like the three year olds are the ones that are just broke. We had it at the ranch I think twice. Then it moved to Hillsdale. They got really big, holy Jesus! We had Jasper, Kootenay, Yoho. Yeah, (Joe did some rodeo too, showing a picture) that was my last ride. I was 28 and I said, “That’s enough of this.” I used to do weekend stuff. The gymkhanas, oh, they were good! Families (came and camped out) and it got so big. I forget how many hundreds of people would be watching. I think that is kind of why Steve Kun kind of cut it down because it was just too high risk, which we didn’t think at that time. Jack Woledge broke his ankle. A horse ran into him competing. Dang horse ran into him and broke his ankle. That was about the only accident.

(0:55:11) It still is, really (the Warden Service is still like a family). With Alumni and that, I told Gail, we are like a big family. Everybody makes sure who’s who and where they are, you know.

(0:55:49) Oh, yeah (Joe misses being a Warden). Even when I was with BC Parks here as a Ranger. No comparison. What they would do and what not, it was basically running campgrounds and some trail work. I worked on a marine crew, there were two of us. A forty foot landing craft, did all the Gulf Islands, eh. It was a nice job, but nothing compared to the Wardens. They knew that too, they knew I was a Warden…It was a nice job, but no comparison. I do miss the mountains. Mind you, we can see them from here. As you go up to Mount Washington and those areas, it’s nice. I think what I miss is the valleys and big mountains here and one over there. But I mean I spent since I was eight or nine up (in the Rocky Mountains) thirty, thirty five years I lived there. Even Banff now, I don’t know about it. You don’t really know anybody. I (used to) walk down Banff Avenue and I knew everybody, where now if I go down there, I am lucky if I run into one person, you know. I’ve done it a couple of time when I went over to stay with Larry (Gilmar). “I’m going to go uptown and just wander and see how many people I run into.” No one! But then you go to Back to Banff Days and you start running into the old crocks!

(0:58:49) When I retired and they had a big party for me, that will always stick in my mind because there were so many people there and not just all Wardens…At that time I wondered, “What the hell am I doing?”

(0:59:25) When I took (Gail) to one of the Warden do’s there at the (Brewster) Donut. When they came in with the meat on the pitch fork she said, “Holy Jesus!’ I said, “What?” She said, “I’ve never seen that before with the pitchfork.” I said, “You should see the pitch fork, they use it for cleaning the barn!” They don’t (really)!

(Part Two – 0:00:01) Larry Gilmar and myself we were climbing the chimney on the Yamnuska. Before we got (to the top) I had a fall maybe ten feet and kind of landed on my hip. It was sore, it hurt, but anyways I made the climb. Then the next day I found out I had a hairline fracture on my hip. (Peter) Fuhrmann, couldn’t even believe that I made it. I remember Larry Gilmar coming up through the top and he says, “Oh, so this is Canada!” Like he had come up from China. Oh, he hated that climb! Oh, Jesus!